Automate with Soul: Systems, Spirituality, and Sustainable Success | Sue Pats

Welcome to Wickedly Branded: Marketing, Magic, and The Messy Middle, the podcast where real conversations meet real strategies. I’m your host, Beverly Cornell, founder and fairy godmother of brand clarity at Wickedly Branded. With over 25 years of experience, I’ve helped hundreds of entrepreneurs awaken their brand magic, attract the right people, and build businesses that light them up.

From surviving a year bedridden to creating a 14-day business launch system, Sue Pats shares how faith, alignment, and automation helped her rebuild both her life and her brand. Together, she and Beverly explore how spirituality meets strategy, how alignment creates abundance, and why systems are key to freedom.

Three Key Marketing Topics Discussed:

1. Spiritual Entrepreneurship: How Sue turned faith and mindset into a foundation for business growth.
2. Aligned Branding: Why bringing your personal values into your business brand changes everything.
3. Systems for Freedom: How automation and clarity can replace hustle with harmony.

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Transcript

Beverly: 0:11

Did you know that most solopreneurs give up before their very first? Product launch or never make it past those fragile early years. My guest today not only beat those odds, but builds a system that helps entrepreneurs launch thriving digital businesses in as little as 14 days. Two weeks. Holy moly, I'm so excited about this conversation today. I'm your host, Beverly Cornell, founder and fairy godmother of brand Clarity at Wickedly Branded, and we've helped hundreds of overwhelmed overachieving consultants, creatives, and coaches awaken their brand magic and boldly bring their marketing to life so that they feel more confident and attract their absolute favorite and most profitable clients. Today I am joined by Sue Pats, a lifelong solopreneur podcast host and the founder of NuBeginning. She has built a proven model that transforms ready-made digital products into global businesses without the overwhelm of content creation. Sounds like a superpower to me, Sue provides power tools, hybrid coaching and thriving community. Sue is helping entrepreneurs around the world build sustainable income faster, but with more freedom. Welcome, Sue. I'm so excited you're here today.

Sue: 1:23

Thanks for the opportunity.

Beverly: 1:24

I'm so excited because I was recently on your podcast. Now you get to be on my podcast

Sue: 1:29

You stole the show. You were so good. My goodness. It was really amazing. Thank you.

Beverly: 1:34

I love this. You're a lifelong entrepreneur. Take us back on your entrepreneurial journey, how you started and like how it's evolved over time to where you are today.

Sue: 1:45

Oh, that journey started long back, when I was a really small kid, I was totally against businesses in my family, everybody were having jobs. But my distant relatives, they had businesses. They were super rich, but I saw them doing lots of unethical things. So I always thought, if you want to own a business, you have to do unethical things and you don't have life, because they didn't have life either. So then I thought, okay, I won't get into business and I will marry a guy who has a job and basically we'll just have high paying job and we'll live happily ever after. And as a teenager, if you're confused, you have two options. Either you go into drugs or you go go into spirituality. And I'm really thankful that I got into spirituality because there I got all my answers over there. So I continued that journey. Ever since arranged marriage, so when I was getting proposals, whenever I got proposal of a guy who has his own business, I rejected. I said, no, no business. No business. So then I'm married, the guy who has a job. And I thought, okay, that will be nice because then we'll have our ethics and values and we'll have peaceful life. So we got married and then we were like a dinks, like double income, no kids. Life was good until my first daughter was born. And when she was born, I just didn't want to leave her to daycare and go to work. It didn't make any sense. I wanted to do work from home. That time, working from home was not that prominent. Then I realized if I want to work from home, I have to have my own business because Job is not letting me do that. By then I was deep into spirituality and I started understanding many principles. I realized that business is not bad and money is not bad. people just say money is evil so that it's not right. If you. Use money for right reasons. It just amplifies your nature. It is in good person's hand. It brings out the, goodness in you. So vice versa. And I started realizing business is also not bad because you are providing opportunity to other people. So you are becoming a solution side of life. You are no longer a liability. You are an asset, you're helping many other people. So my views were changing. And then I started businesses and I had many businesses. I had a computer consulting firm. I also did a computer placement. I was also into network marketing. And some businesses, they really went on well and some didn't. But those who, didn't go that well, I learned from them. That was actually beginning. It started long back but just before pandemic, I was bed bedridden for one year. I couldn't move, I couldn't walk. I had to think about my life because it was near to death experience. Once I'm gone, what I want to leave behind, I just want the world to be little bit better because I was on this earth I recovered also miraculously I think it is totally because of the faith and spirituality and my positive mindset doctors wanted me to spinal, surgery, I refused to do that because if they do one mistake, I'll be buried a whole life. I recovered and then I thought it was my bonus life and I wanted to devote it. Only for solopreneur success because nobody understands solopreneur, neither their friends nor family. If they're not solopreneurs, they don't understand. And that's why I started blogging because I thought that is the best way I can provide free resources to solopreneurs. My blog started getting lots of traction. My blogs always on spirituality and entrepreneurship, people started saying, we love your blog. We don't have time to read. Why don't you start podcast? Every offer I have right now in business is based on my audience's feedback. Because I'm here to serve my audience. I'm not here to serve my ego, neither my imposter syndrome. Makes a long journey too.

Beverly: 5:44

A journey is never linear. I feel like it always has a little bit of bumps in the road. There's always some inspiration or moments of question and challenge. When I was 19, I also was very sick. I thought I was gonna die. I planned my own funeral. It was very serious and I miraculously got better after several months. It gives you a different frame of reference of what your purpose is in this life. I don't think people who've not had that really understand how important it's to leave the legacy and make the world a better place. I feel so connected in that it was a very powerful time in my life, very hard time of my life. It does create a different sense of purpose in being on the planet for sure. talk about looking back, how you started versus how you've evolved, how you've feel about your brand. How has that been created because you're still you no matter what business you're in, and you are such a big part of your brand. So talk about how that process changed over the years.

Sue: 6:40

Absolutely. Many times people get millions of dollars in revenue and they don't feel fulfilled because they don't understand their brand. You bring that into your business life. If you create your business aligned to that, you will have fulfilled and happy life. Once I was writing a sales page and I wrote their fun building business, and I got my sales page reviewed by some community members and they said, what fun building business. They say, if I want to have fun, I will go out with my friends. I don't build business for fun. And then I was thinking, if you are spending more than one third of your life in building business. You should enjoy that. I realized because their brand is not aligned to their vision and their goals and their personal brand is different from their business brand. That's why they're just looking at their business as a chore and they're not enjoying the journey. They're not fulfilled. Brand is a critical thing and I think your community member, they are really blessed because you are brand specialist, you are giving them a complete package. Even if they create revenue, they will be really happy and they won't die with regrets. Creating your brand, clearing your brand is so important and that is what I am doing. For example, I am writing a series of books on spirituality and entrepreneurship, they are actually publishing and all. It was not the idea of monetizing it, I just want people to get that message that people think if you are spiritual, that means you abandon everything and go to forest and live alone. I think that is a easy life because you're not dealing with difficult people, you're just dealing with your own self. When you are living your regular life and when you have spiritual principles incorporated into it, you will have basically satisfied life. I'm bringing spirituality and entrepreneurship because that is what I call myself, spiritual entrepreneur. I love these two pillars in my life and I'm bringing that, and I'm really happy because when I'm gone, I know that work will stay behind and that will empower many people. Bring your personal brand into your business brand. Bring your visions and goals into your business. Once you have your business aligned to your brand. Your life will be totally fulfilled and satisfied. And for that no one better than Beverly even for my audience, I would say that she's brand expert. I just figured it out, by trial and error. I spent lot of time and money and I don't think I have reached to the perfection of that. So that's why even I'm going to collaborate with her. So I would recommend to your audience if they haven't, I can tell the same thing for my audience. Contact her and just set up your brand so that you will have fulfilled life

Beverly: 9:27

you're so gracious in your giving and to my audience and, to reinforce the work that I do and why I'm so passionate about it and why it's so important. I was having a conversation earlier today. I'm trying to refine some things with my messaging. But I don't know if it's the right thing. They're like, oh my gosh, Beverly, you are freaking amazing. You don't understand how many times when you're talking, I'm getting lost in what you're saying because it just speaks to me I got a little teary eyed this is the spiritual side of the work for me. I'm connected to people, I'm connected to the universe, I'm connected to something more than myself. I have so many clients who've come to me with money mindset issues. You referenced that earlier, this idea of making too much money or money being evil. I've had to help them get over that. When you have a gift to help others, and you have a servant heart, I feel like almost all of my clients do, they have a deep passion to help the world. They have to wanna magnify their impact on people. When you are rewarded for that financially, you're able to give more.

Sue: 10:30

I totally agree with you. I also want to say there has to be some energy exchange. That's why I started blogging because I thought I will give all the resources for free and the solopreneurs will get head start and they will get a shortcut to success. That was my idea, but I was so wrong because what happens when you give anything for free? People put it on shelf they don't take action. When they pay more resources, they give more time, they give more attention, and then they see the transformation. Do you know the results for the low ticket memberships? For the live calls people? Show up For the live calls is 1%. For mid ticket on an average people show up for live calls is like 5% of maximum 10%. Mid ticket means something like, 50 to a hundred dollars per month. For high ticket Mastermind people showing up for live calls is 80%. When you are investing a thousand dollars per month or$5,000 per month, people take it seriously. They show up for the training, they take action,

Beverly: 11:32

you can actually make a difference in the world by using your gift and having the exchange of money. And when you do something really well and you know your brand. And you are living in your purpose, the joy you have from that. Is such a beautiful gift too. You have the sense of purpose and belonging that you didn't have before. And it's extremely powerful it's not just marketing or business. I actually say when you're living in your alignment and in your purpose marketing can actually be fun. I want to bring fun back to marketing. When you're in your alignment, you're digging it all. You're loving it all because it's you. It's essentially you that you are spreading around the world. So many clients are worried about asking for more money. And when we brand them, we give them the confidence to raise their prices. Actually what they deserve to be making that extra income allows you to reach your vision quicker, faster, and more, strategically than if you just puddled along and didn't have that intention. It's just much more magnetic in that way.

Sue: 12:30

Pricing is so important sometimes, and you have really value packed offer. And if your pricing is low, people doubt. Oh, you are showing so many things then why your price is so low. Then you also lose trust and see again, that's why I say spirituality and entrepreneurship, they go together for her spirituality and materialism both are actually in the balance, so nothing is, overpowering. For me, it was really life changing moment when I went to Florence and I saw Jumo just from outside, because this has a totally different feeling in my heart. When you go to airport and you want to buy a ticket, you cannot say, okay, I'm spiritual, so just give me a free ticket. They'll ask you dollars. Yeah. Even for any good work, you need that currency.

Beverly: 13:15

Yes. Yes. The world revolves around that right now. Such a good conversation about financial mindset and the possibilities that you can have when you're intentional tell us more specifically about who you help now. The transformation you offer. And give me an example of someone maybe you've helped and what that looked like.

Sue: 13:33

I just saw what people were suffering and struggling. So every offer is created based on that. I have three tiers where people can join. I have various offers. They can just take it and do it yourself. I also have a hybrid coaching where, that is done with you. So there I have a one-on-one. Every week, lesser coaching and, AI based workflow so that their workflow is easy. Then human collaboration. I have, human beings for collaboration, AI workflows in the modules and the lectures. So it is based off even those both words. So that program I have where I show people, even if they're starting from scratch, they can see the money in 12 weeks. When I was getting started into the business digital business, I was told that you will see real money only after. Three years, and I didn't like that. Because how many people have resources to stay in business if they don't see real money for first two, three years? So then that's why I created offers that people can see money within their three months and even if they're starting from scratch, I have case studies where people saw money in their first week, but that's not the norm. This is really cutting short. Instead of three years, you can see money in three months, and that is actually proven. We give guarantee. And now I'm having actually even higher level where people can unlock their unlimited potential by using the universal, principles. And that is also part of spirituality, and that is a really, high, one-on-one coaching. Depending on where you are, people can become part of my community. You can join my free community, just see what kind of help we are providing in collaboration and cross promotions afterwards, depending on your needs, you can become part of any of our paid offers.

Beverly: 15:31

Who typically are you helping? Who's your niche?

Sue: 15:33

Basically, I really want to focus on more on spiritual based entrepreneur, heart-centered entrepreneur. They are the one who bring lots of goodness in this world. They can be called a small business owner. Sometimes they can be called solopreneurs they can be at various stages. They may have, already successful business, but they want to scale further, or they want to have extra income,

Beverly: 15:59

what kind of, programs are you helping these entrepreneurs launch? Give some example.

Sue: 16:04

My focus is on digital. Any offer, they can download on computer or their cell phone digital offers, they range from, actually, you can just say from free to a thousand sub dollars. You can sell just one template for 10,$20. You can have, custom GPT for 30,$50. Or you can have, e-course for, 300,$500,000. I have module, they can create their own digital product. But if they're looking for ready-made digital products and I have a huge database, they can take those digital products ready made. You can rebrand them. And sell them, or you can sell them as it is so that you can get the head start. So depending on your needs, I have both the options.

Beverly: 16:50

This particular season is all about the brand, how you've activated your brand, how you've brought it to life, where you actually feel aligned in your true self and purpose. Was there a moment that it actually felt like yours? Talk about how you got to the place where you feel like I am in full alignment was there moments along the way, hints of that I'm on the right path, that this feels aligned to me.

Sue: 17:13

As a solopreneur, you are wearing many hats. Once you know your goal, your vision, your brand for your life, for your business, when you start your day, you give priority to that work. Then the rest actually can come later if you have time left over. When you assign your day activities based on that, you know you are properly aligned to your brand.

Beverly: 17:37

Yes. I love that so much. It's so good. If you're listening and you hear this and you're like, oh, that's where I need to be, I would love for you to tell us. That, tag us in social media, give us a review, let us know. Oh my gosh. That hit hard because it is such an important moment I oftentimes work with my clients and I say, I want you to write a list of drivers and a list of drainers what is one thing you can do this week to get rid of one of your drainers so you can get closer to your magic? Because that is where you're gonna find the flow. That's where you're gonna find where you're the most joyful and you feel most connected to the work you're doing. So good Sue. Thank you. You have decades of experience as an entrepreneur. What has been the hardest marketing lesson for you personally, and how has it transformed your approach?

Sue: 18:23

Everybody says that email marketing is the highest ROI generating platform. And I had tough time starting email marketing. Initially I remember I was just nurturing my audience. I was not selling anything. Still people were unsubscribing. I said, why are you unsubscribing? I'm just trying to add value. I'm not even selling any of my thing. Sales was a taboo word for me. I was in one meeting and that one lady said, I never hesitated to share my offers because she said, that is the best thing I have in my life. Why shouldn't I share that that totally changed my perspective. I started just putting into my PA section and they started converting so well. And then I realized I was just giving them, all the value. I was giving them knowledge, constipation, and I was not telling them what to do next. Then I realized they were waiting for me to give call to action. It's just because, the respect I'm giving to my subscribers. I always write, my subject line is so clear, so that you read the subject line, you know exactly what it is going to be inside. And people are not looking for perfection from you. They are just looking authenticity from you and people accept you the way you are with open arms if you're authentic.

Beverly: 19:40

Yes. And you know what? I don't think I ask enough for the sale. And knowledge constipation is a great visual. I'm a very visual person and I do the PS and I do sometimes ask, but what is a good frequency of asking and nurturing? Do you have a magic formula for that?

Sue: 19:56

I don't have magic formula. So on an average minus, basically I have three, four emails going in, with Nurture. And then, at the end of the week I have, either flash sale or something really special deal through emails generally, I don't do my high ticket, product sale. Those are generally a low ticket or mid ticket items. I don't do high ticket. It has to be done. High touch.

Beverly: 20:20

Is this a good reminder even for a marketer, I really do believe that you have to lead. Someone always needs to know the next step. Give them the keys to the next step. And, it's such an incredibly important part of it. And even I need a reminder sometimes to ask for the sale more often. It's such a truth. I don't know why we feel so afraid or small that we can't ask for the sale. Such a good internal shift to think about from your own perspective what do you think has been one thing you've let go or delegated some of your drainers that has made your business feel far more sustainable now? Is there one key thing and what happened to make you wanna get rid of it?

Sue: 20:59

Actually that you can create a workflow and automate. You can delegate as a solopreneur. Many people have this dogma that, okay, nobody can do it better than me. Delegation can be done by two ways. You can create automation using ai i'm just setting all the automation. So when I'm on vacation, those things will keep on performing.

Beverly: 21:19

I

Sue: 21:19

also have a team, team will be working on other part of the things they will be creating reels and they will be creating, podcast publishing and my team will be doing that. I have a checklist. I have a workflow so that whoever joins on my team who is a new person, they don't know, they can go through the checklist, they know what to do exactly. It is as detailed as possible, so you can surely actually delegate that work and you have to create time for yourself.

Beverly: 21:47

You said something that was so powerful to me,'cause in the beginning of my work I said, oh gosh, I just wish I could clone myself. And what I realized is by creating systems and processes. And delegating that to my team. I've literally been able to, sometimes they do it better than me. That's what's like crazy is one of my assistants. She's amazing, Michelle. She, gets in my head like she sees the vision before I even see the vision. When you have a strong team, which also took me some time to work out, and you have these systems and processes, you are able to step aside some of those things and free up my space. To develop things that are even better for the business. If you don't have a team, you only have so many hours, so many times of the day, all the things and automations have helped with, setting up project management folders, creating Google Drive folders. It's just less, paperwork and time that I could be actually doing and talking to a customer. And that's where I know is a much better use of my time. And it is the one commodity we cannot buy, we cannot do anything with. It is the most finite thing we live with in this planet and this world is the time that we have. Such a way that you can automate, delegate you do, you need to get as much off your plate. Every quarter. I do drivers and drainers and I get rid of more, get rid of more. And once you start doing that, it is so freeing and you're like on a roll, like you cannot stop because it just becomes this thing that helps you build better, feel happier. It's kind of addictive.

Sue: 23:21

You know, team is also like a marriage because there is no one going to be perfect. So team always means you have to be really understanding. I allow them to do mistakes, but you cannot keep on doing the same mistake again you have to learn from your mistake and move on. As far as their heart is good, I give them chances.

Beverly: 23:40

Agreed. I don't expect anybody to be perfect. My goal is progress over perfection. I've learned from my mistakes that there's the most valuable, life tuition in mistakes and it's extremely powerful. I have the story that I tell my team that, in the movie industry, you have a director, you have a choreographer, you have a costume designer, you know exactly what to say, exactly where to walk, all the things are in place, right? It's highly choreographed when they go to run their lines how many takes do they have? They have a lot of miss takes. And those miss takes when they even know what they're supposed to do. And there's a whole team of people that know. So if you expect by yourself in this life as we figure it all out to not make mistakes, you are sorely mistaken Give yourself some grace.

Sue: 24:30

Actually, my mentor says the day you become perfect. God will call you because no human being is perfect. As far as you're better today than yesterday. You are on the right journey.

Beverly: 24:39

I love that. Okay, so I have a magic hat and it is my rapid fire, round. In, here's a bunch of questions. Whatever comes out. Okay. First question is, what's one book, podcast or entrepreneur? That has made a lasting impact on your entrepreneurial journey.

Sue: 24:54

I can just say the Gita, yeah. That actually made lasting impact on my life. I read Bible too, but for me, Bible is really hard. Is not simple to understand, but the Gita, I could understand it and that's why I'm reading series of books, the Gita for Kids, the Gita for Entrepreneurship, the Gita for Housewives, the Gita for Working Women. I'm writing series of. Based on that. Lovely.

Beverly: 26:24

I love that. What's been your most unexpected, serendipitous moment in business?

Sue: 26:31

I'm experiencing that every day. And that is the faith actually. You have to experience your faith. Every moment is full of miracles. Just because I'm going to backyard and I'm seeing peaches, seeing a flower blooming that is a miracle. It is happening every day, every moment. Yeah, I think it's what

Beverly: 26:51

you look for. If you look for miracles, you will find them. If you look for evil or negative or complaints, you will find them everywhere.

Sue: 27:00

Basically there is a big screen and if there is a one black dot people focus on black dot, there is a whole white screen. Yes, exactly.

Beverly: 27:09

So have you ever thought about quitting and what pulls you back?

Sue: 27:12

No, actually I never quit anything. And sometimes my kids think that is a problem. And I think it is better to quit few things. But, it didn't come easy because I want to hold on everything. And somehow that was ingrained in my mind. I shouldn't be a quitter. Quit is a loser when you are actually going at higher level, you have to let go of the lower level things.

Beverly: 27:34

Yes. What is the worst advice you've ever received?

Sue: 27:38

I cannot call them worst advice. I would just say still it was the advice, someone who was giving me it was they were having the best intention, but the advice was not suitable for me.

Beverly: 27:51

What feels right for you. What's a surprising way that your personal values show up in your business?

Sue: 27:57

Other people's behavior doesn't bother me. And I think, that is one of the best benefits. And it shows everywhere. Surprising way.

Beverly: 28:05

I think if you can let it go, let all that stuff go, that let them do their thing, that is a very powerful lesson because it doesn't really involve you and you can't have that expectation. It's really hard. So I Do Have a magic wand and my magic wand helps us travel forward and back in time. So I want us to go back in time to 18-year-old Sue and I wanna give her a piece of advice that you wish you had known then that you live all the time now.

Sue: 28:33

The piece of advice, for 18-year-old, Sue I could give, it's the don't put yourself on the back burner. You give priority to yourself because once you are good, you can add value to other people's lives because I learn everything hard way. See I was bedridden, one year because I didn't take care of my health because I just kept on giving, when you are, cup is full, you can give more and more to others. If your cup is not full and if you're trying to give to others, you are hurting yourself. Give yourself enough priority. Because when once you are good, everything is good. So that is what I would say, 18-year-old.

Beverly: 29:11

What would 18-year-old Sue say about your life now?

Sue: 29:15

My 18-year-old Sue says that, you evolved a lot because most of the people, they have the same thinking as they're born and when they live the earth. 18 years old, Sue is really proud of this Sue because she sees that Sue has been changing and improving every day. 18-year-old. I was a basket case. I was more like a liability. And now I'm on a totally different side of the world. I'm more like asset, so 18-year-old, so is very proud of current Sue.

Beverly: 29:49

That's awesome. Okay. I'm gonna wave the magic wand and we're gonna go to the future what ripple effect do you hope your story or your voice has on the next generation of entrepreneurs?

Sue: 29:59

So the books which I'm writing, those are going to leave behind and they're going to help every human being on this earth, whoever chooses to, I hope it reaches to everyone. That's why I'm writing book for every different niche. And when I'm gone and when I'm, I will be reborn next life. I have no connection with this because I will be totally forgotten that I had done that work. And so I will have no credit, no nothing related to that. But when I leave this earth, I will show my face to the creator and the creator will say, good job means I'm faithful servant. You did a really good job. And I just want that. I don't want to prove anyone on this earth. I just want to prove to the creator that okay. I'm a good person and that's why really I'm not looking for other people's approval.

Beverly: 30:47

That's good. I feel like that it is about, it's sometimes the most simple things, right? It's the most simple things that matter. The last, part of the segment is about, what does being wickedly branded mean to you and how do you show up wickedly branded and what advice would you give to others to be more wickedly branded?

Sue: 31:05

Many times people have imposter syndrome, and I had imposter syndrome myself, whatever, thing you think, okay, this is not perfect, that is actually helping you a lot because no English is my third language and there might be so many other. Ladies, they are hesitant to start their own business and they're scared. But no, my success will give them hope so that they can start and they can scale their own business. Anytime soon you are imperfection. It's, you are actually a plus point. So you should use that means there is a story, right? There's, one bucket was, having a hole. There was a lady, she always carried two bucket. One bucket was perfect, other bucket was having hole. Then the bucket with hole was telling her that, I'm really sorry I'm not, letting you carry all water to your house because of the, this hole. But she said, just look at the walkway. I always hold you on the side where all the flowers are there. You are watering all those flowers. You created that walk face. So beautiful. So I know your imperfection and I know how to use it for benefit. So if you think you are not perfect, that is your brand and you give hope to others because of your imperfection.

Beverly: 32:24

That is such a nice story of finding the good in all things. Even in your flaws or the things that you think that are, don't have value, what it can teach. And it is something that I've very sharing my story of how I've struggled is just something that I feel. There are people who struggle too, and maybe they just need someone that says, Hey, I'm here. I'm giving a hand to that. I love that story so much. So where can our listeners connect with you and your work and what you're up to, Sue, learn more about NuBeginnings and your podcasts. Talk about where people can find you.

Sue: 32:54

Yeah. You can become guest on my podcast like Beverly. You can actually, it is NuBeginning inspiration for you podcast. You can listen and, review and read and let us know what topics you want us to cover. We will surely cover because my, every episode is based on the feedback. Feedback I get from the audience. Also, my website called NuBeginning.com and new is spelled a NuBeginning.com. And there you'll find lots of free resources, lots of freebies, so you can join our free community join venture collaboration. It is on Facebook and I'm also transferring on courses dot gg, so there is a free community also on LinkedIn I'm active, but on LinkedIn I got verified so I had to put my real name and my real name is really long, so I hope you find me. Actually I'm influencer on LinkedIn. I'm very much active over there. I have a new website coming up.com and that will be only for my spirituality and my books and basically some one-on-one programs over there. So there are various places you can find me. And get help of my free community and just see how we can help you.

Beverly: 34:09

That's such good information to help find and there's free information, which is great. So you can learn as much as you can and see if you wanna dive deeper with Sue. The two encounters I've had with her, plus our LinkedIn chats have been amazing. This conversation's been incredible. For my listeners, I really hope that you found today's episode. It would give you some new ideas, made you not feel so alone and some of the struggles and money and all the different things, and maybe think differently about your drivers and your drainers. And to take a little bit of action around that because here is the most important. Your message matters. Your work matters, and the world needs to hear what you have to say. Marketing isn't just about visibility. It's about impact. It's about connecting with the right people in a way that feels true to you. So just keep showing up. Keep sharing your brilliance with the world and keep making the magic you are meant to do on this planet with the world. And hey, if you ever feel stuck, know that you don't have to do it alone. People like Sue can help. And we're here to help you turn your sparks, your ideas into a wildfire for the world to enjoy. So until next time, I want you to dare to be Wickedly Branded.